Carolina Beer Guy

Exploring the Carolinas one Pint at a time

Category: Beer Culture

  • Throwback Thursday – A Sense of Space

    So this week we go back to a post from March of 2013.

    One key element of the modern brewery to me is a sense of place. I mean that the brewery itself is in a sense the social object. A center where people can travel to, gather with others, and enjoy this shared bond of liking this brewery’s beer. I see it regularly here in North Carolina with Big Boss having close to 500 people on their monthly tour, Fullsteam has a number of community events weekly, or Mystery brewing having movie nights.

    Let’s consider back to the first generation of craft brewers in the 1980, two companies I can think of started out both contract brewing their product. They both grew to national attention and grew as a good pace, eventually one established a permanent home, with a smaller test batch system and place for the public to visit and tour, Boston Beer Company. While the other Pete’s Wicked Ale did well initially, never established a ‘home’ and eventually was spun off from Pete Slosberg to be killed off by Gambrinus years later. And yes there were more factors going on but this sense of place to put a face on the company is a factor among them.

    Have you driven past a InBev or MillerCoors plant? Is there anything compelling or could it be any other industrial plant along the highway? Even Guinness, for how much it has grown and been acquired it still has the old brewery for tours and a shrine where many of my friends have gone and taken the tour and enjoyed a few pints. 

    From Magic Hat’s quirky taproom to visiting the iconic Anchor brewery, it’s a sense of place that helps people find a connection to the beers they love. With all the debate of Craft vs ‘Crafty’ the last few months, this remains in my mind at least a touchstone that helps define what a brewery is.

    I still believe this post, but with the break down of in person meeting during COVID that many people are still dealing with and the need for more diverse drink options are important parts of it. A couple of breweries I was at considered coffee and day time mixed space hours, but neither location was well suited to it. Having some food in the mix helps to, but most breweries aren’t restaurant folk. The solution on that front is having a sublease space for a food truck, a commissary kitchen that people can order at the food trucks window, meanwhile staff works on the food trucks off-site events prep. A few places have been successful at this Dirtbag Brewing as example and I think it’s positive way to get permanent food in the space. Back to diverse drink options, a full mixed beverage cocktail program has been a great update to NC ABC, every brewery should jump on board.

    Next problem is rental rates, they have to be steady and locked in agreement for long term success or better yet, own the building. Lock it into a separate LLC of the same owners, it includes tax right offs and limits legal issues. Fullsteam, Big Boss, many others across the state and likely the nation have faced is being cost out of neighborhoods they helped make successful. It’s important to be mindful.

    Lastly special events to attract to the brewery, I love a good brewery tour, but the customer base is just not into it these days. But offering for accounts or VIPs is great. One recent innovative event I have noticed is BMC Brewing is Public Domain movie night, they show a movie weekly that the copyright has expired, no pesky MPAA to hassle you. The challenge with events like these is that if you are in neighborhood with multiple breweries in short distance they start copying each others events so staying ahead becomes a challenge.

    Often times breweries have been called Third space I still believe in the concept but breweries must adapt to their local market.

  • April Fools 2026

    Happy April Fools Day, okay yesterday. Since the dawn of social media breweries take advantage of the day to post online news posts about fake products or locations. I don’t know if it’s the current business market or just a matter of the algorithm is not showing them, but they seemed to be more difficult to find this year. 

    I did see a few North Carolina based breweries posting with the first from Clouds Brewing showed up the night before. Lost Province had an update to their joke from last year. Whistle Hop Brewing got in on the fun. Oskar Blues has a unique can offering.

    Not just breweries, here in Pittsboro 580 Craft got in on the action. Lastly Raleigh Times got into the action with a one of a kind savory cocktail.

  • The Hidden Risks of Homebrewing Non-Alcoholic Beer

    So in last week’s AI battle I had a question about homebrewing, it came about because a friend was asking about making non-alcoholic (NA) beer at home. He had stopped drinking but missed homebrewing and something of similar flavor. I stated it wasn’t adviseable idea. Today we will discuss the why…

    I am aware there are yeasts available that can produce an NA beer most are offered in commercial sized packaging. So I reached out to my local homebrew shop and talked to the owner about it to see if the yeast companies were pitching homebrew sized portions to the shops. He said they are marketing it, but he ignores it largely due to “too much potential for spoilage organisms to gain traction, at the homebrew level.” It’s valid point salmonella, botulism, and the like are nothing to chance.

    Let’s start with why is beer effective in preventing contamination. For all the news today about recalls in food products, you don’t hear about them in beer very often. The first reason is the boil, generally at least an hour if not longer. Potential contamination is driven off by the prolonged heat. Next reason is during fermentation there is a pH drop by the yeast and creation of alcohol that creates an environment hostile to pathogen growth. To my understanding the NA yeast doesn’t provide these protections.

    Pasteurizing is always an option for a NA beer, but it’s rather impractical on the homebrew level. Pasteurizing is taking a food item that is in a sealed environment (can or bottle) and raising it to a set temperature for a set time. At that point bacteria is killed. It’s complicated but it also has its own dangers like a cooked character to the beer or oxidation that can occur. Commercial speaking pasteurization is done in a tunnel most often or a large box that gets heated with the product inside. Think of the machinery in the opening of Laverne and Shirley. Could a homebrewer design it, yes. Would it be worth it when there are quality cheaper options, no. 

    Commercial making a high quality NA product is a challenge. Consider Guinness, hundreds of years of brewing experience. Vast laboratories and quality programs to give us the perfect pint. But they failed on their first batch release and if they can’t get it right heaven help the rest of us. 

    Athletic Brewing makes great NA beer, in fact their lager is one of the few NA products I have ever enjoyed. But if you gave me somewhere of the $350 million in investment, I think I could make you a good NA product. So in the end day the potential danger of pathogens and quality commercial products already on the market I wouldn’t try to homebrew it.

  • AI fight ProBrewer vs Brewers Assn

    AI as a topic is all the rage, it seems to be every other post on Linkedin and about fourth on Facebook, brewing is not immune to the trend with stories of beer recipes being AI generated. Even ProBrewer and the Brewers Association (BA) have gotten into it with their own chatbots. But how good are they? I decided to ask each 5 questions a brewer would face at some point and see how each answers if there is a better of the two, I’d include the full response but both are rather verbose.

    How would I fix a stuck mash?

    Both did great at this question, they gave detailed instructions to resolve the situation that made sense and were practical. But not only that, they went into detail about systemic issues to prevent it being a reoccuring problem considering a more coarse milling, water chemistry and other ideas, ProBrewerGPT did have more equations, but on this topic they were mostly equal. 

    What would be the dry hopping regiment for the most aromatic Hazy IPA?

    A bit of a split on this topic, BA Barley began with yeast selection, while ProBrewerGBT figured since I was only talking about hop addition it ignored yeast in use. Frankly I hadn’t thought about the yeast as part of the question either because I have a Hazy yeast I like and it didn’t seem necessary to discuss.

    The differences were rather clear while BA Barley covered the topic and the same range of points ProBrewGPT was far more specific giving a pounds per barrel range, precision point in fermentation, suggested hops, and an example recipe. ProBrewer wins this round clearly.

    How can I make nonalcoholic beer at home?

    Trick question you shouldn’t, more on this next week, but AI is notorious for going along with the prompts not rejecting a bad premise. Both fail and say it can be done. Again the ProBrewerGPT has far more detail and after methods to produce with a statement on Critical Considerations (Often Overlooked) microbiological stability. ProBrewerGPT includes a proposed recipe, I also like at the end of the article it asks about force carbonate or bottle conditioning. So though they both fail to my thinking ProBrewerGPT is the winner.

    I have a 15 barrel brewhouse, 4 15 barrel fermenters, 2 30 barrel fermenters, how much ale could I produce in a year?

    I based this on something I think through whenever I enter a brewery, how much beer could we actually turn in a year and by only using ale I am making it a little easier. They both did a great job on this question, hitting the range, but allowing for wiggle room in case the number of theoretical cycles doesn’t meet reality. I do think they went a little high. I never use 26 turns for a year, always assume 25 as maximum because something breaks or a truck doesn’t arrive when you expect it. But they both won this round.

    Draft me a recipe for 5% American Pale ale with piney character. 

    Interesting on this one, BA Barley makes a 5 gallon where ProBrewerGPT just calls percentages and offers to scale to a specific size at the end of answer. I suspect the difference is from Homebrewers Association time with the BA and their forum resides in their servers. The malt bills are fairly close but I like ProBrewerGBT use of Carapils and suggesting an option to replace the crystal malt with all Munich for a dryer beer. The hop bill is pretty much the same with Chinook, CTZ, Simcoe, and Centennial.  Both opt for Chico yeast and make water recommendations. So in the end I’d say almost a tie, but give the thinnest of margins to ProBrewerGBT.

    So ProBrewGBT is the winner, it offers a greater specificity and examples. BA Barley reminded me of Clippy, the old Mircrosoft Assistant, a little too eager. I think the vagueness of BA Barley comes from the nature of conference presentations, they never really dig deep enough into a topic, it’s not usually until the Q&A at the end that the most interesting and useful data shows up.

  • Finding Great Conversations

    So I noticed in my email from the Brewers Association that they are shutting down forums.

    Hey Forum Friends,

    As I’m sure many of you have noted over the years, BA forum activity and participation has steadily declined (a phenomenon that is not unique to this specific forum).

    In an effort to focus our efforts in areas that have most impact to BA members, we’ll be sunsetting the BA Forum as of March 1st.

    For those of you who were getting key news and association updates from the forum posts and/or daily digest, I’d encourage you to utilize the BA Weekly Email (sent on Wednesdays) to that same end. Additionally, our new chat assistant, Barley, is now live and ready to help you track down resources and answer questions. Be sure to check it out and share your feedback!

    Thanks for all of your participation and feedback over the years. It’s been a pleasure moderating these boards…

    Most days I give the forums email a glance, but don’t use them actively. Many of the responses mention the jobs board or the equipment for sale how they will replace those resources. As long as the data from the forums is in their new chattbot’s dataset I don’t think it will be a loss of resources other than the equipment sales. For job posting between Probrewer, Brewbound, and even to an extent Indeed there are plenty of options to post jobs. The association did respond to the concerns about the forums but no clear path ahead yet.

    But the larger question I started pondering is where are the discussions of beer happening online? The local homebrew club hasn’t closed their forums but largely are unused of late, when I asked a member they said the discussion had moved over to Discord. It seems Beer Advocate still has an active forum. X (or Twitter) hasn’t really been a place for conversation for a decade. There are local dedicated Facebook groups but I don’t see conversations. I noticed posting some long form pieces on Linkedin.

    Bluesky, are people using it? I asked Stan and he said for UK based conversations it’s popular, but he hasn’t seen as much adoption for US folk. He mentioned Reddit is good for Atlanta scene so I am checking it out for Carolinas beer news.

    So where do you find great online beer conversation these days?