Carolina Beer Guy

Exploring the Carolinas one Pint at a time

Author: geistbear

  • Style Spotlight – Brown Ale

    Poor old Brown ale, it’s a fantastic style with a good range from solid English maltiness to American examples that can have a more hop forward character. For the last ten to fifteen years it’s a style that dropped off while IPAs and Lagers took the spotlight. I was brewing at a place when we saw the trend while IPAs might sell 4 half barrels (15.5 gallons) a week, it took between two to three weeks to sell one keg of Brown ale. That’s when word came down, it’s moving from year round to a Winter seasonal. I did get complaints in the taproom, but my response was “if you loved that beer you would have been drinking more of it.”

    According to BJCP “A malty but hoppy standard-strength American ale frequently with chocolate and caramel flavors. The hop flavor and aroma complement and enhance the malt rather than clashing with it.” Better examples have a not just chocolate character but a malt depth sometimes from using different crystal malts. I like a Brown with a subtle English hop note. Moderate in gravity with a rand 4.0-6.2% abv.

    Armored Cow Brewing, Bitchin’ Betty, 5.4% abv

    The lightest color of the days beer, brown on the table but more of an amber hue when the glass was raised, with light tan foam. Low aroma with no chocolate or hop character, canned this year so still fairly fresh. It featured a light sweetness, likely the most balanced beer of the day. It reminded me of Newcastle.

    Pisgah Brewing, Turtleback Brown, 5.9% abv – draft not pictured

    Very roasty nose on this beer, it was a deep brown color that had an amber hue when put to the light, foam was a light tan color. The beer seemed light on the crystal character but strong chocolate character. For an American Brown the hop character was rather subdued. Quite an enjoyable draft.

    Viciour Fishes Brewery, Into the Abyss Brown Ale, 5.3%

    Deep brown color with light tan foam, with garnet-ruby highlights as brought to light. Aroma was a rich roasty, chocolate with a hint of hop character. The beer featured nice sweetness and the roast didn’t dominate the flavor as much as the nose advertised.

  • Brew News

    Brewsmart is a recurring one day educational session hosted by the NC Brewers Guild, yesterday the topic was Business Leadership so much of the topics covered were financial, brand identity or real estate in nature. There is also an accompanying mini-trade show, this one featuring insurance, HR-payroll firms, and even legal. Joymongers hosted and Pig Pounder hosted a member social afterwards. Next one will be in the Summer and feature technical brewing.

    We start in South Carolina this week with update at the former River Rat location, now known as Ratskeller.

    Back to NC, Charlotte has the big news of the week, that Petty Thieves has been sold to Brian Kletch. Brian wasted no time either with hiring Adam Glover as Director of Brewing Operations. In other news Southern Strain is closing its Plaza Taproom location. Finishing in Charlotte Philly magazine has a feature on the city including a number of local brewery options.

    In Asheville related news Homebrew Con has opened registration for this year’s event.

    Outside NC, Vinepair has news from Bank of America that the bar business grew last year.

    Late breaking news yesterday that Tilray who has been actively buying up breweries is set to buy UK Brewery Brewdog. This news wasn’t unexpected, it was just a question of who and for how little, the brand has been damaged goods for a while.

    Finally the fascinating story of the mural that was discovered at the Rhinegeist Brewery in Cincinnati.

    In weekend events we have the make up date for NC Rare & Vintage Saturday and Raleigh Brewing is hosting their 13th Anniversary party Sunday Saturday.

  • AI fight ProBrewer vs Brewers Assn

    AI as a topic is all the rage, it seems to be every other post on Linkedin and about fourth on Facebook, brewing is not immune to the trend with stories of beer recipes being AI generated. Even ProBrewer and the Brewers Association (BA) have gotten into it with their own chatbots. But how good are they? I decided to ask each 5 questions a brewer would face at some point and see how each answers if there is a better of the two, I’d include the full response but both are rather verbose.

    How would I fix a stuck mash?

    Both did great at this question, they gave detailed instructions to resolve the situation that made sense and were practical. But not only that, they went into detail about systemic issues to prevent it being a reoccuring problem considering a more coarse milling, water chemistry and other ideas, ProBrewerGPT did have more equations, but on this topic they were mostly equal. 

    What would be the dry hopping regiment for the most aromatic Hazy IPA?

    A bit of a split on this topic, BA Barley began with yeast selection, while ProBrewerGBT figured since I was only talking about hop addition it ignored yeast in use. Frankly I hadn’t thought about the yeast as part of the question either because I have a Hazy yeast I like and it didn’t seem necessary to discuss.

    The differences were rather clear while BA Barley covered the topic and the same range of points ProBrewGPT was far more specific giving a pounds per barrel range, precision point in fermentation, suggested hops, and an example recipe. ProBrewer wins this round clearly.

    How can I make nonalcoholic beer at home?

    Trick question you shouldn’t, more on this next week, but AI is notorious for going along with the prompts not rejecting a bad premise. Both fail and say it can be done. Again the ProBrewerGPT has far more detail and after methods to produce with a statement on Critical Considerations (Often Overlooked) microbiological stability. ProBrewerGPT includes a proposed recipe, I also like at the end of the article it asks about force carbonate or bottle conditioning. So though they both fail to my thinking ProBrewerGPT is the winner.

    I have a 15 barrel brewhouse, 4 15 barrel fermenters, 2 30 barrel fermenters, how much ale could I produce in a year?

    I based this on something I think through whenever I enter a brewery, how much beer could we actually turn in a year and by only using ale I am making it a little easier. They both did a great job on this question, hitting the range, but allowing for wiggle room in case the number of theoretical cycles doesn’t meet reality. I do think they went a little high. I never use 26 turns for a year, always assume 25 as maximum because something breaks or a truck doesn’t arrive when you expect it. But they both won this round.

    Draft me a recipe for 5% American Pale ale with piney character. 

    Interesting on this one, BA Barley makes a 5 gallon where ProBrewerGPT just calls percentages and offers to scale to a specific size at the end of answer. I suspect the difference is from Homebrewers Association time with the BA and their forum resides in their servers. The malt bills are fairly close but I like ProBrewerGBT use of Carapils and suggesting an option to replace the crystal malt with all Munich for a dryer beer. The hop bill is pretty much the same with Chinook, CTZ, Simcoe, and Centennial.  Both opt for Chico yeast and make water recommendations. So in the end I’d say almost a tie, but give the thinnest of margins to ProBrewerGBT.

    So ProBrewGBT is the winner, it offers a greater specificity and examples. BA Barley reminded me of Clippy, the old Mircrosoft Assistant, a little too eager. I think the vagueness of BA Barley comes from the nature of conference presentations, they never really dig deep enough into a topic, it’s not usually until the Q&A at the end that the most interesting and useful data shows up.

  • Style Spotlight – Barleywine

    There’s something about Winter weather and Barleywine that make it a great pairing. The cold, crisp air and warming sensation of all the alcohol match well. The name is fairly obvious, a barley that nearly matches a wine in terms of strength. According to the BJCP “A very strong, malty, hoppy, bitter American ale with a rich palate, full mouthfeel, and warming aftertaste, suitable for contemplative sipping.” The American tend for more hop forward character often, where the English are more balanced or malt forward. The color range can vary dramatically from copper through brown, but today’s tasting features a black one. This is a big beer that ranges 8 to 12% abv, better examples have warmth but not a harsh alcohol character. 

    When we went to Vermont on vacation a while back, we stopped in at Rock Art Brewery, and had their barleywine the Vermonster. Very American in fashion with bold hop character, but they did something very unique a cheese pairing with it. When you tried one cheese all the hops came forward, with the second malt character dominated. If you’re ever in the area it’s well worth stopping in.

    We have four beers in today’s selection, but they were sampled over the course of  3 different nights, because well, moderation.

    Atomic Clock Brewing Co, Bossloper Whiskey Barrel – Aged Black Barleywine, 10.7% abv

    The deep black color is a stand out difference immediately, most examples are lighter. The whiskey barrel age is very present in the nose. It mentions Blackstrap Molasses on the bottle and generally that gives a nice dryness, it also mentions toasted marshmallows and caramelized dates, but those characteristics I didn’t really pick up. I think the whiskey barrel character dominated the beer. It had a nice aged character and depth came out as it warmed. It is in stores around the Triangle currently.

    Fortuna Komes Barleywine, 12% abv

    Based in Poland I found this at Total Wine, the only example of the style in the store. This beer featured an amber hue with light off white foam. It had a rich caramel aroma. It’s a medium body beer but had little in the way of alcoholic warmth to it. Rather one note caramel flavor, but not a depth often featured in the style.

    Sierra Nevada, Bigfoot, 9.6% abv

    Deep amber with light off foam. It had warmth of dried fruits and raisins in the nose, with a rich caramel character, while plum and date character didn’t seem to stand out as much as the nose presented. I think the beer was a bit young, but it’s still available in stores so I’m going to find a six pack to age and compare next year.

    Trophy Brewing, Gravity Always Wins 12% abv

    This was a bonus beer, I’d forgotten it was in the garage refrigerator and the Alewif rediscovered it. According to her Untappd she thinks we found it in 2023. Another barrel aged barleywine this one aged in Weller 12 bourbon barrel. It featured a light amber foam and the head disappeared so rapidly I didn’t note the color. The aroma rich notes of plum and dates with a hint of bourbon. Rich aged character with notes of stonefruit and friend cherry. The barrel character was there throughout and became more pronounced as it warmed. Alewif would have liked a little more carbonation but of the four this was our favorite. The beer is not currently in production and we kept ours cold, but worth trying if you run across it.

  • Finding Great Conversations

    So I noticed in my email from the Brewers Association that they are shutting down forums.

    Hey Forum Friends,

    As I’m sure many of you have noted over the years, BA forum activity and participation has steadily declined (a phenomenon that is not unique to this specific forum).

    In an effort to focus our efforts in areas that have most impact to BA members, we’ll be sunsetting the BA Forum as of March 1st.

    For those of you who were getting key news and association updates from the forum posts and/or daily digest, I’d encourage you to utilize the BA Weekly Email (sent on Wednesdays) to that same end. Additionally, our new chat assistant, Barley, is now live and ready to help you track down resources and answer questions. Be sure to check it out and share your feedback!

    Thanks for all of your participation and feedback over the years. It’s been a pleasure moderating these boards…

    Most days I give the forums email a glance, but don’t use them actively. Many of the responses mention the jobs board or the equipment for sale how they will replace those resources. As long as the data from the forums is in their new chattbot’s dataset I don’t think it will be a loss of resources other than the equipment sales. For job posting between Probrewer, Brewbound, and even to an extent Indeed there are plenty of options to post jobs. The association did respond to the concerns about the forums but no clear path ahead yet.

    But the larger question I started pondering is where are the discussions of beer happening online? The local homebrew club hasn’t closed their forums but largely are unused of late, when I asked a member they said the discussion had moved over to Discord. It seems Beer Advocate still has an active forum. X (or Twitter) hasn’t really been a place for conversation for a decade. There are local dedicated Facebook groups but I don’t see conversations. I noticed posting some long form pieces on Linkedin.

    Bluesky, are people using it? I asked Stan and he said for UK based conversations it’s popular, but he hasn’t seen as much adoption for US folk. He mentioned Reddit is good for Atlanta scene so I am checking it out for Carolinas beer news.

    So where do you find great online beer conversation these days?

  • Brew News

    Starting off the week with a profile of Oscar Wong, Founder of Highland Brewing, if you ever have the chance to visit their rooftop taproom it’s simply one of the best views in the Carolinas.

    Vinepair has a write up on cheap eats paired with Craft Beer, Hi-Wire Brewing and Tasty Beverage get mentioned. Johnny said it’s really helped drive traffic for Tasty, he does offer a special every Weiner Wednesday.

    Crooked Hammock gets a preview by News and Observer, also the brewery is looking for a Jeep for the Raleigh location.

    Lonerider CEO Sumit Vohra has an interesting read, the Founding Narrative of a business, not exactly about beer but still a great read.

    Back to beer, the Brewers Association notes that Ball, can manufacturer, has sold out it’s production supply for 2026. Ball made headlines in the industry in 2021-22 for adding new minimums of order 5 truck loads per SKU this meant that smaller craft breweries were pushed out from being direct customers of the company and forced to buy through resellers. Even though craft is decline it means other products using their cans are being successful at least for now. How Congress will deal with THC drinks is the monster under the bed for Ball and a number of local breweries as well. I asked a friend with a mobile canning company what she thought about the announcement and “I see it as a good sign for all beverages. As the spectrum moves around from cold sellers to hot sellers. Pretty interesting though how some buyers are set for the next decade.”

    Speaking of mobile canning ProBrewer has an article discussing it’s current state.

    Last story by Randy Mosher features a fascinating interview with a flavor researcher.

    Busy weekend coming up with events at Zebulon, Eno River Brewing, and Amore Artis Brewing, go check them out.

  • Throwback Thursday – Start of School

    Today”s post is from January of 2015 discussing Wake Tech’s Craft Brewing program. I really enjoyed my time working with the program and glad that Clay has been successful at growing it.

    Today starts the fourth section of the Wake Tech Craft Brewing class basics class. It has been fun to teach, but more importantly it is helping people prepare for careers related to the brewing industry. The other benefit is local brewers will have better trained new staff walking in the door.

    The students come from a wide range from young adults trying to get their career going to retired folks looking for a hobby. Some homebrewers take it, but over half attendees have no experience with brewing before walking in the door. 

    The class is review of the brewing process and issues in a brewery. I work to set expectations from the first day, not this is not a class on making wort, it’s about general operations. The class does make one beer on a pilot system, but this is done to make sure they understand the entire brewing process start to finish in a hands-on approach. And yes, the beer is enjoyed for the class graduation. The last big point I try to make clear is brewing is work, hard work. Long days standing getting wet in hot or cold conditions are the norm, drinking beer is often the exception not the rule.

    Teaching the class makes me focus on the basic elements of the brewing. As the adage goes you only really know a skill when you teach it to others. Standing up in front of 20 students helps me practice on public speaking which is under appreciated but often needed skill when opening a brewery. All those funny odd skills from cleaning to electrical repair to public speaking that go into brewing that people never stop to think of, but perhaps because it does require so an odd mixture of skills that makes the life so appealing.

  • Style Spotlight – Barrel Aged Stouts

    This week’s style is barrel aged stouts, I talked a bit about barrel aging here, but we will focus a little deeper this time. As to BJCP states “An intensely-flavored, very strong, very dark stout with a broad range of interpretations. Roasty-burnt malt with a depth of dark or dried fruit flavors, and a warming, bittersweet finish. Despite the intense flavors, the components need to meld together to create a complex, harmonious beer, not a hot mess – sometimes only accomplished with age.” The key often with these beers is aging and if your aging steel is rather boring, why not a nice bit of oak to add an extra level of complexity. Bourbon barrels are often the go to but these days there is a great range of barrels on the market from wine barrels to South American hard woods. There is enough material to write a book and in fact Dick Cantwell and Peter Bouckaert did in the great Wood & Beer: A Brewers Guide.

    While high gravity beers were all the rage pre-COVID, they seem to have fallen out of favor and finding three examples took some work.

    Allagash Brewing, Gatherwell, 11% abv

    Deep Black hue with a chocolate foam. It featured a rich mixture of caramel and roast in the taste and a thick syrup consistency. While it says it’s Bourbon barrel aged, I didn’t really get it, though the Alewif detected it.

    Goose Island, Bourbon County Brand Stout, 14.8% abv

    Bourbon County Brand Stout was an original in the market, one of the first true Whales until after InBev bought Goose Island and kicked production into overdrive. Released on Black Friday each year, it used to be gone that day, but now it lingers on the market into the New Year. There are a number of variations these days but we stuck to the classic for the tasting. Black with a very dark foam. This beer had a rich roast character with notes of plum and raisin. It matched Allagash in complexity but with the Bourbon character more present. It had a nice balance, clear why it remains so popular today. If you want to learn more about the beer and Goose Island’s story check out Barrel-Aged Stout and Selling Out by Josh Noel. Lastly there is a North Carolina connection to the beer, Seth Gross of Bull City Burger and Burger worked at Goose Island around when the beer hit national fame.

    BMC Brewing, Barrel Aged Manneken Stout, 10.1% abv

    While barrel aged, this one had mentions of rye barrel but it had notes of vanilla the others didn’t have. I believe it was fermented on the cooler side as I didn’t have the strong phenols or spice I associate with a Belgian yeast. There was a malt complexity present and a bit more bitterness than the other two beers.

  • Brew News

    This week we start off with news from Hi-Wire Brewing that they are partnering with NoDa Brewing. Together they will release a collaboration beer with 100% of proceeds benefiting continued Hurricane Helene recovery efforts in WNC through Asheville Regional Coalition for Home Repair (ARCHR), which provides no-cost repairs to qualified low-income families whose homes were damaged by the hurricane. They are releasing it on March 27th, the beer will be Odyssey IPA is a 6.5% ABV hazy IPA brewed with Dolcita, Citra, and Mosaic hops. I may have to have a style spotlight on Hazy IPA in April it sounds like.

    From the East Carolinian we have a preview of Crooked Hammock’s arrival to Raleigh.

    The Charlotte Observer features an update on Club West Brewing rebranding efforts.

    Lastly, some content I’m not sure how often I’ll cover the topic of breweries for sale. Last August it made the news that Norse Brewing was up for sale at the time the owner wanted 8 million at the time. That was overpriced based on the state of the market but it’s still available. But based on a conversation I did some digging and found a few others on the market. First is Gypsy Road out of Kernersville, you can see their logo in the listing and if you check their website it’s clearly their stage in the listing as well. The final listing is this one out of Alamance County that I think is pretty obvious.

    Bonus link – Ed’s Beer Blog has a post on the Yorkshire square fermenter, the video at the bottom is alone worth checking out the post.

    Extra Bonus Link – check out Time Traveler Fest at Atomic Clock this weekend, it’ sounds like a fun line up.

  • Triangle Maltster Lunch

    Brewing is a very social industry, we enjoy conversations with our competitors, helping them, tasting their brews and sharing our experiences. It’s a rather unique industry in that aspect. Last year Sebastian Wolfrum and Brian Quinn were chatting about the need for social opportunities for brewers in the Triangle. Since the end of the Triangle Craft Brewers Alliance and COVID there aren’t as many opportunities to get out and socialize within the industry as much. So they decided to create one. On the 2nd Friday of the month from 11:30-1pm at Epiphany Malt in Durham they are hosting the Maltser Lunch. 

    It’s nothing fancy, a hot dog and some great conversations. 

    At the inaugural in January had folks from Ponysaurus, BMC, in addition to myself. It was great to tour around and see the updates at Epiphany since my last visit. I’d never had the opportunity to walk inside the malting box so it was a real treat.

    I’d suggest anyone attending bring a beer to share, if I’d thought about it in advance I would have brought something, I was just curious to experience it. I look forward to going again soon.